Low Blow from FS Forum Mod

This is from Dj hobbes:

I don't like having to censor anything, and would rather allow a large amount of freedom here, but if anything that i fel is not in this boards' best intrest, I will ask that person privately to remove what they said, or to refrain from doing it again. I don't like to be the bad guy, but if it comes down to it, I have no hesitations. In regards to latency, if only some of you could see how bad the actuall latency is with SSL, many of you would have a heart attack. It is only because of the way their code is, is the reason why it actually works. In the end however, when the upgrade is released, you'll be shocked by how "snappy" the new time code decoder's algorithm really is. If any of you know of NI Guitar Rig, the same guy who worked on that (which so far has very few problems) is the one who rewrote the time code algorithms. Obviously, NI found themselves a damn good programmer, and that means great news for all NI products.

I don't know if technically what the latency is on a computer. Maybe .07 or something like that. I can't tell with my human ears, but it sounds like scratching to me. Companies are going to advertise their strong points of course. I used Final scratch and I use SSL. They may be able to convince people who haven't used both systems...that's what they will depend on. You can't fool a person who has used them both. And to me If it started off great and it's a computer program, computer programs get updates, and it can only get better. I just love the fact that it did what it advertised and I can make money Djing and make my Mix Cd's with it.

rofl

so people seeing the real FS latency would start mass genocide?

Stantons recent antics are confirming all my worst suspicians about them. they should stick to making mixers that rattle like old biscuit tins.

OMG *L

What a strange comment. I wonder if he plans to qualify that with some actual information. Does he mean bad like Michael Jackson?

The second part is intriguing too, about our code being our saving grace. Since code could mean control signal or program code, it hard to tell if he is saying that our software is wack and it only works because our records are awesome, or that our records are wack and it only works because our software is awesome.

Either way he doesn't know what he is talking about, our control system is extremely robust and our software latency is incredible. I can't wait to get my hands on an FS2 system to see if they have really reduced the latency that much.

Hobbes is an interesting fellow...at times he seems to have a hand's off approach to moderating, but then you come in and talk about SSL and he's all over it like fly's on shat.

I remember a post where this dude was posting mixes that he made using ... drum roll please ... SOUND FORGE!!!!!!!!!!

People were so appaled, because not only was he not using any sort of DJ software, but he was also charging people for his mixes!

A lot of people asked Hobbes to take him off the forum cause he's obviously a joke...but he said something like:

I'm gunna allow him to post simply because this is a free forum and I don't want to discriminate.

But this whole SSL/FS competition has him all fired up...I find the people like him (who have been burned by stanton/NI one to many times) are usually the ones that are quick to judge...hell he hadn't even played with FS2 by the time he's posted this stuff!!

Well I disagree, youre right about the last part (he has not played with FS2 when he wrote it) but he is a nice guy, and he is a good mod, in my opinion.

He is not fired up, but I mean I can understand him (and others) who were pissed of FS1 and the lack of support from stanton/NI. Now they got hope for a revenge :) Or maybe they are just excited about it, there is nothing wrong with that. I mean, I am also a bit excited if stanton will lose the last customers who trusted in their product. We will see.

Don't get me wrong, he's a much better mod than half of those over at the old Stanton boards, I was just pointing out how quick he was to judge the whole SSL vs. FS2 thing based one the reports that Stanton and NI have given him.

I really do hope that FS2 works for the people that are investing in it, cause to spend that much money on something and not have it work can ruin your month... or 6 months in my case ; )

I tell you what. I use to be on the FS board all the time...I asked a few questions, I never got a smart remark..But the moderator was giving alot of slick remarks, the more people complained about the FS. It was more like getting defensive. It's been a while since I been there(they closed the forum) but as soon as SSL came out and people started comparing, that's when they shut it down.

Can someone please pass this on to Hobbes:

PUT UP OR SHUT UP!

Vague, unsubstantiated claims like
don't do it for me.

FS have made some totally bullshit claims about their latency in the past. So when they start slagging other people's products, they better come up with some _real_ figures. I'm all for 'may the best product win'. I'm just a consumer, so my only interest is having the best all-round product for my needs. That includes latency, stability, and support.

I'm just glad I didn't buy their product on account of their "12ms latency" bullshit.
I haven't forgotten the experience of feeling more than 24ms latency with my own hands, while the FS demo-guy kept claiming it was 0.12ms.
When FS2 is in the stores, I'll try it. In the mean time,
DON'T F***ING LIE TO ME!

Well, wonder why this guy didn't get a heart-attack then? Maybe he got it just from looking at how perfect SSL is. Screw NI!

Hear, Hear...

ROFL

I love when people try to convince me the world is flat, but I've already been around the world. You have to say...they do have some big balls to even print something like that, like people haven't used them both.