Slight Pause when Cutting, help with settings.
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ok i been using SSL with my CDJ's since i got it. today i had my mixshow and i noticed with my vinyl when im doing slower cuts, or a drag thew sound cuts out for a milisecond, or there are delays when i release the vinyl. its not much but when your cutting and dropping in on beat and it has a split second pause, its not good. i have USB buffer set to 5, i have tried a few other settings as well but can't seem to get ride of the delay.thanks in advance, any help would be appreciated.
At 8:50 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
Have you applied the XP tweaks described in the Tips and Tricks area? That could do the trick. What are your specs again?
At 9:04 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
i did most of them except for the disable and enable ones, i did them before and they didn't do much.
Specs:
2.5 Ghz Intel Mobile Celeron
640 Megs Ram
60 Gig 5400 RPM Toshiba HD
Specs:
2.5 Ghz Intel Mobile Celeron
640 Megs Ram
60 Gig 5400 RPM Toshiba HD
At 9:09 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
www.scratchlive.net This one too? Any apps running in the background?
At 9:12 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
yeah but im not having needle dropping issues. im having pauses anddelays when cutting backwards slow or draging backwards slow. also when letting the sample go.
At 9:21 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
yeah then i have audio issues, garbled sound. do you have to restart the program after you change settings for it to work right?
At 9:25 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
I think it has something to do with your threshold settings. Fiddle around with them and try again.
At 9:28 PM 7 January 2005
nik39 wrote
ok but how do i fiddle? what does the threshold have to do with delays? i have only use SSL for 2 weeks so bare with me.
At 9:28 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
Nope, that shouldn't be necessary. Are you sure those disable and enable ones didn't do no difference? I had applied those on the laptop I'm using SSL with now. Before that I was experiencing problems even at 10, but after that I can run it at 1. With the laptop that is still being "repaired" I could run it at 1 without applying any of the tweaks. Going to apply them when I get it back.
At 9:29 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
Drop a song on one deck and put it in internal mode. Go to the setup area and press the estimate threshold on both decks. That's how I do it.
At 9:31 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
well i didnt notice much of a difference with FS i guess i can try them with SSL. i just dont see how closing a few programs would bogg my LT down. its not even close to the Minimal requirments for SSL.
At 9:31 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
synystr, if one app peaks your CPU for more than 1 ms (described easy, its more complicated in reality) you might experience a drop out if your USB buffer size is at 1 (1ms USB buffer size is, it reads the USB bus each 1ms).
At 9:34 PM 7 January 2005
nik39 wrote
Those tweaks do wonders, man. It makes one hell of a difference. Try applying all the tweaks applied described there and see if it makes a difference. Also do that threshold thing that nik said to see if you get better results.
At 9:34 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
*drop applied...
Also disable WiFi and Bluetooth things...
Also disable WiFi and Bluetooth things...
At 9:36 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
Lets assume you got a clean strong controlrecord signal. If your threshold is to high, it will make SSL not read slow recordmovements correctly, they will be ignored.
If your threshold is too low (and your signal is noisy) then you will experience pops/jumps etc with slow movement (slow movement means control signal is at a low volume).
If your threshold is too low (and your signal is noisy) then you will experience pops/jumps etc with slow movement (slow movement means control signal is at a low volume).
At 9:36 PM 7 January 2005
nik39 wrote
ok but i dont understand the threshold settings. i know what the usb ones are for. could someone exsplain what the threshold settings are for and how to adjust them ie: more means____ less ____
At 9:36 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
Higher threshold (attention: -24 is higher than -72) = more robustness agains noise, slow movements will be detected worse. You need higher threshold in club situation, where the bass is pumping and causing feedback to your vinyls/needles.
At 9:40 PM 7 January 2005
nik39 wrote
ok so in the radio studio i have nothing like that with bass. so i should set it how for low background noise? to the left or right. sorry i dont have SSL hooked up and open.
At 9:41 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
Say you only got your headphones on and there isn't really a lot of sound in the background. Then your threshold should be to the right. However, if you're speakers are on, the threshold should be moved to the left. It allows you to choose how much you want the needle to pick up from outside the record. Remember that you have to do this correctly. Do the thing I described above and just leave the needle on the record without letting the turntable spin.
At 9:44 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
Me neither... but set it to a lower value (in the direction of -72 which is to the left IIRC).
At 9:45 PM 7 January 2005
nik39 wrote
Just remember to do this each time you're moving your turntables to another location. But you might not do that so often if they're in the studio.
At 9:47 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
lol, man im spin in 5 different locations weekly. not counting my own studio. i have used the estimate feature and it always moves it far right. now when you said changing the threshold i should do this without the record moving? but when im using a cd i dont play the cd either? and can i do this while im playing out in the club live during the set? do i need to restart the program to let the settings taek affect?
At 9:50 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
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when you said changing the threshold i should do this without the record moving?Doesnt matter (only matters if you click on estimate, then you should make sure that the record is stopped). No need to restart anything, you can do this during a set.
Keep in mind, if you set this manually which means it could be set too low, you could experience glitches (due to noise/feedback interpreted as record movement). So you should know what youre doing, if not, go with the estimate button, then youre safe.
I usually use (on good turntables which give a good clean signal) a setting of -48 (estimate also gives me -24) and I haven experienced any problems yet.
At 9:54 PM 7 January 2005
nik39 wrote
ok i guess ill set it up in the lab and see if i have this problem. but lets say changing it back and forth doesnt help this problem. then what?
At 9:56 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
dj synystr, check my PM I sent you.
We will see if that doesnt help, then it might be something else ;-)
We will see if that doesnt help, then it might be something else ;-)
At 10:00 PM 7 January 2005
nik39 wrote
LOL. I thought you were one of those guys who had several turntables - one for each location.
Let me know how it goes, guys.
Let me know how it goes, guys.
At 10:10 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
i have tables for the lab and tables and CDJ 1000's for the road. but yeah i guess im one of those guys but i don't leave my equipment in the clubs.
At 10:14 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
Oh ok...I thought you only had this problem with the turntables you had in the lab...Calibration is the key to success ;)
At 10:16 PM 7 January 2005
Revolutionary wrote
got it. i think that was the problem. like i said until today i been using CDJ's with SSL. today was the first time i used vinyl with SSL so i guess i didnt have to set it up with the CDJ's like the vinyl.
At 10:26 PM 7 January 2005
dj synystr wrote
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