SYNC Button
Anybody else wish scratch live had a built in sync between the two decks?
At 3:41 PM 2 November 2009
Eklipze wrote
I kind of do....though I thought I'd miss it far more than I actually do... syncing is pretty easy with the pitch sliders, but reducing steps does make it easier to do rapid fire mixing on the fly. Part of why I went to software was to be able to do some of the creative things that just could not be done with CD's or vinyl.. mashups, and such on the fly are difficult sometimes as you may need to change songs and fire off within a single phrase... having a sync button makes that possible, where starting the track and adjusting the slider just can't be done due to the time it takes.
I know all of the "i'm too cool for any automation" crowd will cry, but make it so they can turn it off, or hide the feature.
Personally, the wave view and the Beat grid are also "cheating" if you want to be all gay about it, but I don't see any of the "Purists" complaining about that!
Limiting the functionality of the software doesn't benefit anyone. Including the option to disable features would solve those problems for those who like to suffer..
I always laugh when a serato user walked up to me with my Virtual DJ and said "oh, that's cheating, it DJ's for you" I'd step back, hit the sync button to sync BPM, then say.. OK, go ahead and make the software mix... they never can.. even with matched BPM's...
I'm now a serato user, but I can tell you that it's no harder to DJ on serato than it is on VDJ.. The beat guide at the top gets you dead on the BPM.. so why not go one step further, and make a sync button?
it's a useful tool like anything else...
I know all of the "i'm too cool for any automation" crowd will cry, but make it so they can turn it off, or hide the feature.
Personally, the wave view and the Beat grid are also "cheating" if you want to be all gay about it, but I don't see any of the "Purists" complaining about that!
Limiting the functionality of the software doesn't benefit anyone. Including the option to disable features would solve those problems for those who like to suffer..
I always laugh when a serato user walked up to me with my Virtual DJ and said "oh, that's cheating, it DJ's for you" I'd step back, hit the sync button to sync BPM, then say.. OK, go ahead and make the software mix... they never can.. even with matched BPM's...
I'm now a serato user, but I can tell you that it's no harder to DJ on serato than it is on VDJ.. The beat guide at the top gets you dead on the BPM.. so why not go one step further, and make a sync button?
it's a useful tool like anything else...
At 5:24 PM 2 November 2009
Holden Caulfield wrote
I think its a great suggestion being able to hide it and have it be completely optional.
At 2:41 AM 3 November 2009
Eklipze wrote
I am not a "purist" by any stretch of the imagination but I hope this feature never comes into SSL.
If you want this feature badly enough, there are lots of packages out there that have already implemented this
If you want this feature badly enough, there are lots of packages out there that have already implemented this
At 11:01 PM 3 November 2009
nokturnal wrote
god i wish ppl would search this damn forum.
as a side note.
the difficulty djing on VDJ and serato is the same...but i've NEVER heard a dj using VDJ not use the sync button. if you don't use the sync button and use VDJ...you are one of the rare ones my friend.
as a side note.
the difficulty djing on VDJ and serato is the same...but i've NEVER heard a dj using VDJ not use the sync button. if you don't use the sync button and use VDJ...you are one of the rare ones my friend.
At 2:30 AM 4 November 2009
wrosenbl12 wrote
I would have no objection to this, as INT mode is not the easiest for fine tuning pitch.
At 5:30 PM 4 November 2009
Pete Moss wrote
Sync is only accurate some of the time...
I spin a ton of disco, funk, and old school 80's....
none of that stuff was quantized, so even if you beat sync it, in 4 measures, it's off again anyway.. I'm riding the pitch bends , or outer wheel of the CDJ through the entire mix
I can tell you that when I'm doing a wedding, or corporate event for example, I'm not going to bring out CDJ's, and all that, I'll simply use my MEP-7000.
I'm curious as to why those who say "I hope we never see this feature in serato" say that.
it's not an auto mix button, it's a bpm sync..
I don't know about many of you, but I'm a full time professional DJ. I support a family of 6, pay my mortgage, health insurance, IRA, etc. by DJing. I have been for 12 years. I'm not some schlock DJing in his bedroom. (nothing wrong with that, I was there 15 years ago) So as a user whose living depends on the software he chooses to deliver his services, I think that features that help a professional DJ do their thing are a smart thing to add..
I don't do clubs anymore. Nothing wrong with them, but as I get older (I'm only 35), I think it's more "Legit" to make $2500 a night to DJ, even if I'm DJing to a dentist's convention.
No software DJ's for you.... even mixmeister, which can be pretty tight, can't intelligently mix and choose proper in and out points.. so what's the problem?
sync doesn't match the tracks up, it simply makes the bpm from one deck match the other.. how much skill and technique does it take to slide the pitch slider till' it matches the opposing player? why not a button to make it lightning fast? that my friends is not DJing for you.
seriously, I have not heard one intelligent reason as to why it would not be a good feature.
those who cannot mix still won't be able to mix.
I just wish that with the substantial investment I've made into this system for my business that development wouldn't be hindered by whiners with lame DJ Names Djing for $75 and a pint of beer, because they're so "Legit"...
Boy, I hope protools and final cut never introduce SMPTE time code for syncing audio and video tracks...
Real audio engineers and Real video editors do it manually...
Using tools to further creativity is cheating.. cheating cheating cheating...
using software is cheating then... wanna' be old school, leave the laptop at home..
I'm looking towards the future...
I spin a ton of disco, funk, and old school 80's....
none of that stuff was quantized, so even if you beat sync it, in 4 measures, it's off again anyway.. I'm riding the pitch bends , or outer wheel of the CDJ through the entire mix
I can tell you that when I'm doing a wedding, or corporate event for example, I'm not going to bring out CDJ's, and all that, I'll simply use my MEP-7000.
I'm curious as to why those who say "I hope we never see this feature in serato" say that.
it's not an auto mix button, it's a bpm sync..
I don't know about many of you, but I'm a full time professional DJ. I support a family of 6, pay my mortgage, health insurance, IRA, etc. by DJing. I have been for 12 years. I'm not some schlock DJing in his bedroom. (nothing wrong with that, I was there 15 years ago) So as a user whose living depends on the software he chooses to deliver his services, I think that features that help a professional DJ do their thing are a smart thing to add..
I don't do clubs anymore. Nothing wrong with them, but as I get older (I'm only 35), I think it's more "Legit" to make $2500 a night to DJ, even if I'm DJing to a dentist's convention.
No software DJ's for you.... even mixmeister, which can be pretty tight, can't intelligently mix and choose proper in and out points.. so what's the problem?
sync doesn't match the tracks up, it simply makes the bpm from one deck match the other.. how much skill and technique does it take to slide the pitch slider till' it matches the opposing player? why not a button to make it lightning fast? that my friends is not DJing for you.
seriously, I have not heard one intelligent reason as to why it would not be a good feature.
those who cannot mix still won't be able to mix.
I just wish that with the substantial investment I've made into this system for my business that development wouldn't be hindered by whiners with lame DJ Names Djing for $75 and a pint of beer, because they're so "Legit"...
Boy, I hope protools and final cut never introduce SMPTE time code for syncing audio and video tracks...
Real audio engineers and Real video editors do it manually...
Using tools to further creativity is cheating.. cheating cheating cheating...
using software is cheating then... wanna' be old school, leave the laptop at home..
I'm looking towards the future...
At 7:27 PM 8 November 2009
Holden Caulfield wrote
NEVER EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eklipze please go to sell naranjas if you can't spin
Eklipze please go to sell naranjas if you can't spin
At 10:02 PM 8 November 2009
rlaci wrote
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NEVER EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It would only apply to internal mode where you don't have a physical pitch slider. It would simply set the pitch close and not provide any automatic anything.
At 12:39 AM 9 November 2009
Pete Moss wrote
No hate rlaci, its strictly convenient. If you dont like it, thats cool if you do thats cool too.
At 6:26 AM 9 November 2009
Eklipze wrote
+10000000 if they make it in (option) why not pepole can choose to use it or no.its a personal choice...
At 10:32 PM 9 November 2009
DJ-SHUFFLE wrote
Sync really isn't the word that we should be using. It's confusing all the people that didn't read most of the thread.
At 10:42 PM 9 November 2009
Pete Moss wrote
If they add this, might as well add AUTOTUNE on the scratxh box mic input :P
At 6:59 PM 10 November 2009
DJ Jinnai wrote
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